Hi Reader,
This one’s personal. I sat down with my wife Toni, Ann Voskamp, and John Ortberg for the kind of dinner-table conversation I love bringing to the podcast.
Think of this conversation as three friends who have walked through real pain, talking honestly about what they’ve learned, to help you learn how God acts when nothing makes sense.
Here’s what you’ll take away:
👉 Why AI’s instant answers are making it harder to wait on God (and what we’re actually losing)
👉 What Dallas Willard told John in his darkest moment, a line he’s repeated thousands of times since
👉 How Ann and Toni redefined success after years of chasing it
👉 What they’d believe if they weren’t Christians
👉 Why trauma is pain experienced alone, and what changes when it’s shared
This episode also connects to something Toni has been building for two years: Honest to God, a book written by 25 authors (including Ann and John) who donated their time and royalties to two Christian charities doing great work around the world. More on that inside.
If you’ve ever sat in silence wondering what God is doing, this one’s for you.
🎧 Listen now and take the next step toward healthier leadership. Watch it on YouTube or tune in wherever you listen to podcasts.
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