Hi Reader,
I’ve been in pastoral ministry long enough to know this: few conversations are more tender, confusing, and theologically charged than divorce.
That’s why I invited my friend Lysa TerKeurst back on the podcast.
Lysa vulnerably shares the story of her unwanted divorce, the physical and emotional cost it took on her, and how she learned to distinguish between a difficult marriage and a truly destructive one.
We talk about Malachi 2:16, what the Bible actually says (and doesn’t say) about divorce, the danger of weaponizing Scripture, and why protecting the image-bearer matters as much as protecting the institution of marriage.
This episode will stretch your theology, deepen your empathy, and give you language and categories to pastor people in complex, heartbreaking situations, without abandoning a high view of marriage or Scripture.
If you’re walking through a hard season yourself, or you’re leading people who are, I think this conversation will mean a lot to you and your team.
🎧 Listen now and take the next step toward healthier leadership. Watch it on YouTube or tune in wherever you listen to podcasts.
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