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NEW John Mark Comer on what's really discipling your church


Hi Reader,

If you feel like your life (and your church) is running on fumes, you’re not imagining it. We live in a noisy world—digital noise, literal noise, emotional noise. And noise doesn’t just irritate us… it shapes us.

In today’s episode of the podcast, I sit down with John Mark Comer in his living room as part of the 2026 Church Trends series, and we talk about what happens when you finally get quiet, really quiet.

John Mark shares his experience of a 21-day “desert” retreat (no devices, no books, almost no distractions) and what it exposed in him. We also get into why anxiety makes love harder, how distraction sabotages discipleship, and why the church may be missing a massive moment as people search for peace. John Mark is radically extending what he learned in the Ruthless Elimination of Hurry to brand new levels.

If you’re leading in a loud age, this conversation will help you rethink how you lead, how you pray, and what your church is actually forming in people.

Listen/watch now—and don’t be afraid of the quiet.

🎧 Listen now and take the next step toward healthier leadership. Watch it on YouTube or tune in wherever you listen to podcasts.

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