Hi Reader,
A question for you: If you could sit down with an 80-year-old leader who finished well, what would you ask?
Most leadership advice comes from people in the middle of the journey. This week's podcast is different.
As part of a new "Required Listening" summer series, I'm bringing back one of the most loved, shared and cherished conversations we've ever had on this podcast: my View from 80 interview with Gordon MacDonald.
If you've never heard it, well, that's why it's part of the Required Listening series. If you heard it years ago, it's an amazing refresh.
Shortly after his 80th birthday, Gordon shared 15 lessons from a lifetime of leadership, ministry, failure, restoration, friendship, marriage, and faith.
What struck me listening again wasn't how much Gordon accomplished.
It was how clear he was about what actually matters.
In today’s podcast, Gordon shares:
👉Five conversions a leader goes through
👉Why the years between 32 and 42 might be the most dangerous stretch of your career
👉The Bill Clinton story
👉What 58 years of marriage to Gail has taught him
And he gives the one piece of advice he’d give any younger leader, which is also the most counterintuitive thing he could say.
In a culture obsessed with the next thing, Gordon offers something much more rare, perspective.
If you're leading through a demanding season, wrestling with ambition, or wondering what it takes to finish well, I think you'll find this conversation deeply encouraging.
Listen in, and let me know what lesson resonates most with you.
I think it will help you lead with more clarity, humility, and compassion.
🎧 Listen now and take the next step toward healthier leadership. Watch it on YouTube or tune in wherever you listen to podcasts.
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