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Required Listening: One of Eugene Peterson's final interviews


Hi Reader,

When was the last time you sat in silence long enough to hear what was really going on inside you?

That's not a question most leaders ask.

We're usually too busy solving problems, preparing messages, leading meetings, and moving on to the next thing.

This week, as part of our "Required Listening" series, I'm bringing back one of the most meaningful conversations I've ever had on this podcast: a conversation with Eugene Peterson, recorded just a year before he passed away.

During our conversation, he walks through his Sabbath rhythm, a Monday practice he and Jan kept for decades. He never preached a sermon about it, but within a few years, a tenth of his congregation was keeping the Sabbath too.

Plus, Eugene tells the origin story of The Message. It didn’t start as a publishing project. It started in Baltimore in 1962, in the middle of the race riots, when his congregation was afraid and buying weapons, and he couldn’t get them to hear what Paul was saying in Galatians. So he started translating into their language. It took 20 years.

In a culture that rewards speed, Eugene reminds us that depth is still possible. This was one of the very last interviews Eugene did before he retired from public life.

Listen in, and let me know what stands out to you.


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P.S. I hope this conversation encourages you as much as it encouraged me.

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